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The Taycan costs a lot and it's not something I was initially prepared for. Specs do make up for how Porsche priced it, especially with what's being discovered in first drives. Aside from that, everything else to not like doesn't concern me nearly as much and hopefully it stays that way in the months/years ahead. In the love category, are ALL the common motivations for wanting a Taycan/Taycan Turbo/Taycan Turbo S.

Am I missing anything? Curious to know what everyone here thinks should fit into these two categories before going ahead with a deposit.

LOVE IT:
  • Incredible acceleration
  • sports-carlike handling
  • speedy recharging capability.
HATE IT:
  • Conservative battery range
  • no Android Auto support
  • typical Porsche pricing.
 

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I was hoping that Porsche/Rimac partnership would pay off some dividends when it comes to range.. so am gonna agree with you there. Pricing .. it is what it is .. a Porsche.
 

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I was hoping that Porsche/Rimac partnership would pay off some dividends when it comes to range.. so am gonna agree with you there. Pricing .. it is what it is .. a Porsche.
The trade-off of having the first all-electric driver-focused vehicle in the form of a Porsche with 911 character, all for slightly more effort in managing range is worth it to me (y)
Have you used the Electrify America charging station finder? Anyone who's concerned about range should start with that first (if they haven't already) and actually see how adequate or lack thereof the Taycan's range is.

In my estimates... no range anxiety.
 

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The trade-off of having the first all-electric driver-focused vehicle in the form of a Porsche with 911 character, all for slightly more effort in managing range is worth it to me (y)
Have you used the Electrify America charging station finder? Anyone who's concerned about range should start with that first (if they haven't already) and actually see how adequate or lack thereof the Taycan's range is.

In my estimates... no range anxiety.
95% of the time you will drive in 100-150mi range radius around your home base.. so yes, I agree with you, technically, range anxiety is zero, here on my end. What i was alluding to, though following Porsche and Rimac closely and their takes about their respective EV, is that i was hoping more of a bang for the buck for us buyers when it comes to the BMS/ Cooling/heating tech that Rimac has that could allow the Taycan a 300mi range as promised at the Mission E unveil. With future expected battery tech to hit Porsche without a doubt, the Taycan lineup will get better range wise. I got plenty of options with current Turbo/Turbo S to make it from Seattle up to Vancouver BC or down to Portland on the Porsche Dealership charging network alone. Plenty of EA network stations as well and with EA's partnership with ChargePoint and EVgo network.. the cars will be well taken care of
 

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Another thing I love about the Taycan is the interior layout, particularly with all the touchscreens. I think they really nailed it and the passenger screen is a great idea. The range is a bit disappointing but I have a feeling that's going to change with future models.
 

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95% of the time you will drive in 100-150mi range radius around your home base.. so yes, I agree with you, technically, range anxiety is zero, here on my end. What i was alluding to, though following Porsche and Rimac closely and their takes about their respective EV, is that i was hoping more of a bang for the buck for us buyers when it comes to the BMS/ Cooling/heating tech that Rimac has that could allow the Taycan a 300mi range as promised at the Mission E unveil. With future expected battery tech to hit Porsche without a doubt, the Taycan lineup will get better range wise. I got plenty of options with current Turbo/Turbo S to make it from Seattle up to Vancouver BC or down to Portland on the Porsche Dealership charging network alone. Plenty of EA network stations as well and with EA's partnership with ChargePoint and EVgo network.. the cars will be well taken care of
We might be able to find hints of that BMS/ Cooling/heating tech in the pipeline by paying attention to what VW group is doing elsewhere. Considering that, the Audi E-Tron line up is on my radar.
 

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Things I like about the Taycan: (1) interior screens, options; (2) exterior appearance; (3) it's a BEV with decent range and performance; (4) list of options; (5) pano glass roof that doesn't open. (I greatly detest glass "sunroofs" that open, as they really don't provide much useful air and they are huge potential liabilities in terms of breaking/leaking.)

Things I don't like about the Taycan: (1) not-so-great range; (2) high pricing; (3) lack of buttons for audio and climate; (4) lack of ability to darken the glass pano roof (unless I'm missing something); (4) poor placement of lower digital screen in center console area, as it will be hard to read in sunlight and will reflect a lot of sunlight into the driver's eyes (especially with the glass pano roof, but even without); (5) ground clearance appears too low for many practical applications (not clear how much the air suspension can raise the ground clearance).

Things I hope for: (1) two cheaper versions of the Taycan that start well under USD $100k (base Taycan with 2-wheel-drive, and "Taycan 4" with AWD); (2) improvement of battery pack, increasing even to 120 kWh or better; (3) some really nice versions of the Cross Turismo and Macan BEVs that aren't too expensive, with the increased ground clearance; (4) some improved E-Hybrids in the Porsche line-up, including for Macan, with much larger battery packs (like 20-30 kWh).
 

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Things I like about the Taycan: (1) interior screens, options; (2) exterior appearance; (3) it's a BEV with decent range and performance; (4) list of options; (5) pano glass roof that doesn't open. (I greatly detest glass "sunroofs" that open, as they really don't provide much useful air and they are huge potential liabilities in terms of breaking/leaking.)

Things I don't like about the Taycan: (1) not-so-great range; (2) high pricing; (3) lack of buttons for audio and climate; (4) lack of ability to darken the glass pano roof (unless I'm missing something); (4) poor placement of lower digital screen in center console area, as it will be hard to read in sunlight and will reflect a lot of sunlight into the driver's eyes (especially with the glass pano roof, but even without); (5) ground clearance appears too low for many practical applications (not clear how much the air suspension can raise the ground clearance).

Things I hope for: (1) two cheaper versions of the Taycan that start well under USD $100k (base Taycan with 2-wheel-drive, and "Taycan 4" with AWD); (2) improvement of battery pack, increasing even to 120 kWh or better; (3) some really nice versions of the Cross Turismo and Macan BEVs that aren't too expensive, with the increased ground clearance; (4) some improved E-Hybrids in the Porsche line-up, including for Macan, with much larger battery packs (like 20-30 kWh).
Ground clearance will also be an issue for me. NOT liking the idea i might have to replace a front splitter or two, possibly within a short time frame with where I live. IF the below picture has something to do with a lift system (at its extreme) to deal with this issue, then its a non-issue. The other possibility is these Taycan's have yet to go through pre-delivery inspection and have those suspension caps still in (if Porsche even adds them)

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Yes, I simply have too many uneven roadways to travel daily, with big speed bumps, driveway dips, etc. If I have a car that can't give me at least 7 inches of ground clearance (with or without air-suspension lift feature), I'm going to be scraping bottom a lot... My dream would be a Cross Turismo with 7 inches of normal ground clearance, raisable to 8 or 8.5 inches. (The standard Macan today has 8.0-8.3 inches of normal ground clearance. My Panameras can raise to 7 inches when at maximum air-suspension lift level, and that's about my minimum ground-clearance limit for certain daily-driving situations.) Cars with maximum ground clearance of 5-6 inches just don't work for me (been there, done that).
 

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Yes, I simply have too many uneven roadways to travel daily, with big speed bumps, driveway dips, etc. If I have a car that can't give me at least 7 inches of ground clearance (with or without air-suspension lift feature), I'm going to be scraping bottom a lot... My dream would be a Cross Turismo with 7 inches of normal ground clearance, raisable to 8 or 8.5 inches. (The standard Macan today has 8.0-8.3 inches of normal ground clearance. My Panameras can raise to 7 inches when at maximum air-suspension lift level, and that's about my minimum ground-clearance limit for certain daily-driving situations.) Cars with maximum ground clearance of 5-6 inches just don't work for me (been there, done that).
Likewise, which in that case my concerns would be more with how these wheels take an impact, rather not deal with bent wheels.
 

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The Taycan costs a lot and it's not something I was initially prepared for. Specs do make up for how Porsche priced it, especially with what's being discovered in first drives. Aside from that, everything else to not like doesn't concern me nearly as much and hopefully it stays that way in the months/years ahead. In the love category, are ALL the common motivations for wanting a Taycan/Taycan Turbo/Taycan Turbo S.

Am I missing anything? Curious to know what everyone here thinks should fit into these two categories before going ahead with a deposit.

LOVE IT:
  • Incredible acceleration
  • sports-carlike handling
  • speedy recharging capability.
HATE IT:
  • Conservative battery range
  • no Android Auto support
  • typical Porsche pricing.
Well....you asked....so, for me on the 'Hate It' list.....it would still be that it's not the 'E' Body......but that's just me.
 
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