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The Taycan costs a lot and it's not something I was initially prepared for. Specs do make up for how Porsche priced it, especially with what's being discovered in first drives. Aside from that, everything else to not like doesn't concern me nearly as much and hopefully it stays that way in the months/years ahead. In the love category, are ALL the common motivations for wanting a Taycan/Taycan Turbo/Taycan Turbo S.

Am I missing anything? Curious to know what everyone here thinks should fit into these two categories before going ahead with a deposit.

LOVE IT:
  • Incredible acceleration
  • sports-carlike handling
  • speedy recharging capability.
HATE IT:
  • Conservative battery range
  • no Android Auto support
  • typical Porsche pricing.
 

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I was hoping that Porsche/Rimac partnership would pay off some dividends when it comes to range.. so am gonna agree with you there. Pricing .. it is what it is .. a Porsche.
The trade-off of having the first all-electric driver-focused vehicle in the form of a Porsche with 911 character, all for slightly more effort in managing range is worth it to me (y)
Have you used the Electrify America charging station finder? Anyone who's concerned about range should start with that first (if they haven't already) and actually see how adequate or lack thereof the Taycan's range is.

In my estimates... no range anxiety.
 

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The trade-off of having the first all-electric driver-focused vehicle in the form of a Porsche with 911 character, all for slightly more effort in managing range is worth it to me (y)
Have you used the Electrify America charging station finder? Anyone who's concerned about range should start with that first (if they haven't already) and actually see how adequate or lack thereof the Taycan's range is.

In my estimates... no range anxiety.
95% of the time you will drive in 100-150mi range radius around your home base.. so yes, I agree with you, technically, range anxiety is zero, here on my end. What i was alluding to, though following Porsche and Rimac closely and their takes about their respective EV, is that i was hoping more of a bang for the buck for us buyers when it comes to the BMS/ Cooling/heating tech that Rimac has that could allow the Taycan a 300mi range as promised at the Mission E unveil. With future expected battery tech to hit Porsche without a doubt, the Taycan lineup will get better range wise. I got plenty of options with current Turbo/Turbo S to make it from Seattle up to Vancouver BC or down to Portland on the Porsche Dealership charging network alone. Plenty of EA network stations as well and with EA's partnership with ChargePoint and EVgo network.. the cars will be well taken care of
 

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Another thing I love about the Taycan is the interior layout, particularly with all the touchscreens. I think they really nailed it and the passenger screen is a great idea. The range is a bit disappointing but I have a feeling that's going to change with future models.
 

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95% of the time you will drive in 100-150mi range radius around your home base.. so yes, I agree with you, technically, range anxiety is zero, here on my end. What i was alluding to, though following Porsche and Rimac closely and their takes about their respective EV, is that i was hoping more of a bang for the buck for us buyers when it comes to the BMS/ Cooling/heating tech that Rimac has that could allow the Taycan a 300mi range as promised at the Mission E unveil. With future expected battery tech to hit Porsche without a doubt, the Taycan lineup will get better range wise. I got plenty of options with current Turbo/Turbo S to make it from Seattle up to Vancouver BC or down to Portland on the Porsche Dealership charging network alone. Plenty of EA network stations as well and with EA's partnership with ChargePoint and EVgo network.. the cars will be well taken care of
We might be able to find hints of that BMS/ Cooling/heating tech in the pipeline by paying attention to what VW group is doing elsewhere. Considering that, the Audi E-Tron line up is on my radar.
 

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Things I like about the Taycan: (1) interior screens, options; (2) exterior appearance; (3) it's a BEV with decent range and performance; (4) list of options; (5) pano glass roof that doesn't open. (I greatly detest glass "sunroofs" that open, as they really don't provide much useful air and they are huge potential liabilities in terms of breaking/leaking.)

Things I don't like about the Taycan: (1) not-so-great range; (2) high pricing; (3) lack of buttons for audio and climate; (4) lack of ability to darken the glass pano roof (unless I'm missing something); (4) poor placement of lower digital screen in center console area, as it will be hard to read in sunlight and will reflect a lot of sunlight into the driver's eyes (especially with the glass pano roof, but even without); (5) ground clearance appears too low for many practical applications (not clear how much the air suspension can raise the ground clearance).

Things I hope for: (1) two cheaper versions of the Taycan that start well under USD $100k (base Taycan with 2-wheel-drive, and "Taycan 4" with AWD); (2) improvement of battery pack, increasing even to 120 kWh or better; (3) some really nice versions of the Cross Turismo and Macan BEVs that aren't too expensive, with the increased ground clearance; (4) some improved E-Hybrids in the Porsche line-up, including for Macan, with much larger battery packs (like 20-30 kWh).
 

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Things I like about the Taycan: (1) interior screens, options; (2) exterior appearance; (3) it's a BEV with decent range and performance; (4) list of options; (5) pano glass roof that doesn't open. (I greatly detest glass "sunroofs" that open, as they really don't provide much useful air and they are huge potential liabilities in terms of breaking/leaking.)

Things I don't like about the Taycan: (1) not-so-great range; (2) high pricing; (3) lack of buttons for audio and climate; (4) lack of ability to darken the glass pano roof (unless I'm missing something); (4) poor placement of lower digital screen in center console area, as it will be hard to read in sunlight and will reflect a lot of sunlight into the driver's eyes (especially with the glass pano roof, but even without); (5) ground clearance appears too low for many practical applications (not clear how much the air suspension can raise the ground clearance).

Things I hope for: (1) two cheaper versions of the Taycan that start well under USD $100k (base Taycan with 2-wheel-drive, and "Taycan 4" with AWD); (2) improvement of battery pack, increasing even to 120 kWh or better; (3) some really nice versions of the Cross Turismo and Macan BEVs that aren't too expensive, with the increased ground clearance; (4) some improved E-Hybrids in the Porsche line-up, including for Macan, with much larger battery packs (like 20-30 kWh).
Ground clearance will also be an issue for me. NOT liking the idea i might have to replace a front splitter or two, possibly within a short time frame with where I live. IF the below picture has something to do with a lift system (at its extreme) to deal with this issue, then its a non-issue. The other possibility is these Taycan's have yet to go through pre-delivery inspection and have those suspension caps still in (if Porsche even adds them)

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Yes, I simply have too many uneven roadways to travel daily, with big speed bumps, driveway dips, etc. If I have a car that can't give me at least 7 inches of ground clearance (with or without air-suspension lift feature), I'm going to be scraping bottom a lot... My dream would be a Cross Turismo with 7 inches of normal ground clearance, raisable to 8 or 8.5 inches. (The standard Macan today has 8.0-8.3 inches of normal ground clearance. My Panameras can raise to 7 inches when at maximum air-suspension lift level, and that's about my minimum ground-clearance limit for certain daily-driving situations.) Cars with maximum ground clearance of 5-6 inches just don't work for me (been there, done that).
 

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Yes, I simply have too many uneven roadways to travel daily, with big speed bumps, driveway dips, etc. If I have a car that can't give me at least 7 inches of ground clearance (with or without air-suspension lift feature), I'm going to be scraping bottom a lot... My dream would be a Cross Turismo with 7 inches of normal ground clearance, raisable to 8 or 8.5 inches. (The standard Macan today has 8.0-8.3 inches of normal ground clearance. My Panameras can raise to 7 inches when at maximum air-suspension lift level, and that's about my minimum ground-clearance limit for certain daily-driving situations.) Cars with maximum ground clearance of 5-6 inches just don't work for me (been there, done that).
Likewise, which in that case my concerns would be more with how these wheels take an impact, rather not deal with bent wheels.
 

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The Taycan costs a lot and it's not something I was initially prepared for. Specs do make up for how Porsche priced it, especially with what's being discovered in first drives. Aside from that, everything else to not like doesn't concern me nearly as much and hopefully it stays that way in the months/years ahead. In the love category, are ALL the common motivations for wanting a Taycan/Taycan Turbo/Taycan Turbo S.

Am I missing anything? Curious to know what everyone here thinks should fit into these two categories before going ahead with a deposit.

LOVE IT:
  • Incredible acceleration
  • sports-carlike handling
  • speedy recharging capability.
HATE IT:
  • Conservative battery range
  • no Android Auto support
  • typical Porsche pricing.
Well....you asked....so, for me on the 'Hate It' list.....it would still be that it's not the 'E' Body......but that's just me.
 

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Well....you asked....so, for me on the 'Hate It' list.....it would still be that it's not the 'E' Body......but that's just me.
Fair enough. Its infinitely better than feedback like this that I came across today...

"Please tell me how an EV makes any sense whatsoever!!! Is it supposed to make me feel better about myself because that seems pointless!!!! Consumers need to know whether an EV produces a smaller carbon footprint or not!!! We need credible research and a government who will support this industry so that consumers can make an intelligent and cost effective decision to make a difference!!!! STOP THE CHARADE!!!!"

Then on the LOVE side, we have people speaking from actual experience:

"Many people claiming to have driving one have CLEARLY never driven one. I too wish that EVs didn’t exist but after driving this car it is UNREAL. Like nothing I have ever experienced and I’ve driven everything before. Even a 918 on track. Happy with my 05’ 911 but if I had a ton of cash I’d have one of these in a heartbeat. "
 

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Да, цена кусается ужасно. Ну, это Porsche, и это тоже очень быстро, и это новые технологии. Эх бы знал об этом пару лет назад, купил бы сегодня.
 

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Like:

1) Very well built
2) Fantastic ride and driving dynamics
3) FAST
4) Porsche Familiarity

Dislikes:

1) More plastic, feels "less than" a Panamera
2) Radar detector and Ipass don't work through thermally insulated glass
3) Less than 300 mile range
4) 1 12 volt socket in center console (But its irrelevant as you can't use radar detector through glass !!)

Conclusion, one of the best cars I've ever driven
 

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1) More plastic, feels "less than" a Panamera
2) Radar detector and Ipass don't work through thermally insulated glass
3) Less than 300 mile range
4) 1 12 volt socket in center console (But its irrelevant as you can't use radar detector through glass !!)

Conclusion, one of the best cars I've ever driven
Its sad the Taycan's build quality is like this.

For $50,000 more than the Tesla Model S you would expect premium interior materials among other things that come to mind when one typically thinks of Porsche. Porsche should have treated it like a flagship, not that it is, but that this model will set the tone for future electric cars from them.

The 2021 MY Taycan is fast approaching and I sure hope they address this. Does anyone recall this happening with year-to-year changes of any Porsche model?
 

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Its sad the Taycan's build quality is like this.

For $50,000 more than the Tesla Model S you would expect premium interior materials among other things that come to mind when one typically thinks of Porsche. Porsche should have treated it like a flagship, not that it is, but that this model will set the tone for future electric cars from them.

The 2021 MY Taycan is fast approaching and I sure hope they address this. Does anyone recall this happening with year-to-year changes of any Porsche model?
These are actually small issues in the big picture. It's a really nice car. All new cars have more and more plastic and "feel" lighter, even if there aren't !! Short of a Rolls Royce or a Bentley, they are all like this.
 

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Purchased my used 2020 Taycan 4S in March 2022 with $15K miles. Paid $119K for it - more than I originally budgeted, but my choices were limited in the sedan realm (Tesla Model S, Genesis G80 Electrified - which was not yet available, and Tesla Model 3 Performance). Here we go:

LOVE IT:
  • Addictive acceleration
  • firm handling, can be set to ride like a comfy car (Normal drive setting/Regular ride height, normal chassis settting), or a low harder-riding-like-on-rails handling sports car (Sport drive setting/Low ride height/Sports Plus chassis setting) - like driving two completely different cars!
  • After recent update (to 2023 specs), decent range - 100% charge shows approx 270 miles. More than enough for me, even on long trips.
  • Beautiful Porsche looks and very distinctive looking.
  • ACC works very nice.
  • Love the almost adaptive cruise control-like regen setting (automatic). Makes for a perfect setting when using ACC during street driving is not practical.
  • Bose system is nice, but even nicer because there is no engine sound to drown it out.
  • My build date was early 2021, so it has wireless Car Play.
  • Did I mention the insane acceleration? Launch mode it insane! Not the fastest, but 3.8 sec to 60 mph is PLENTY fast!
DISLIKE (Don't HATE IT):
  • Seats are a little too firm for daily driving - though I've gotten used to it.
  • Pre-cool/heat always turns on seat vents - regardless of outside temperature.
  • Retractable wing does not operate unless in Cruise mode and cannot be manually deployed.
  • Home charger errors-out when set to 40 amps. Lowered to 32 amps and had no issues - but should not have to. I did a lot of research on this - dealer stumped and was told Porsche has asked Porsche home charger users to lower to 32 amps and basically live with it. Only occasional issue, timer for a 6:30AM charge may not be reached when car is below 15% overnight, unless you remember to plug in no later than 6PM.
  • Occasionally the PCM acts. up - forgetting a menu setting, or one of the cameras don't work, or the volume of the radio suddenly doesn't work. Not frequent enough to be annoying. For now, I'm chalking it up to very new technology. Latest update did make things better. Before the update, the PCM was pathetic and took forever to boot up.
  • Fingerprints! There is no "wash mode" that allows you to wipe the screens without inadvertently setting off things or changing settings.
  • Not the car's fault, but some options I wish I had (will option on my next Taycan order, whenever that may be...):
    • no motorized folding mirrors - should be a standard item;
    • no Sports-Chrono package, mostly because of the selector on the steering wheel.
    • Black on black is nice but would have preferred a lighter interior - just a personal choice though obviously not a deal breaker.
    • Wish more "normal" colors were available - without paying $3,100 for them (like Carmine Red, or Ice Grey Metallic). Appreciate the wild colors, but some of us are a bit more conservative.
I love driving it. Never get tired of the acceleration.

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My 2-cents:

Love…
  • acceleration!
  • smooth ride & suspension
  • built quality
  • handling
  • comfort (seats…)
  • range and consumption (MUCH better than expected, more than sufficient)
  • charging speed
  • design, interior & exterior
Not so good…
  • the eco tyres
  • weight
  • partly materials (more plastic feel than other Porsches in that price range)
  • brake feel – especially transition from recup to physical brakes (sometimes bad, sometimes its perfect – SW issue I guess)
 
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