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This makes sense to me. Tesla owners have been waiting on an alternative from a more established automaker. I'm sure the Roadster however will attract just as much attention as the Model 3 has been getting.
 

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Tesla has made monumental progress with the build quality of their newer models, but availability is still a huge problem. Not to mention they've just recently cut entry level models so they are also less affordable.
 

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Things have improved with their stock pricing ever since Elon stepped down as board chair. Not having him in the news on a weekly basis with random shenanigans should instill more confidence in the company for investors and buyers.
 

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After seeing spyshots of the Taycan i was quite surprised to find out the frunk is lacking space to put just about anything you'd want to carry.
As a Model S rival it comes to my surprise that Porsche didn't compete on cargo. I understand its a Porsche but everyday practicality is important, its not like we're only driving these on the local track.
 

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There are very few EV's or mid engine cars that have any sort of useable storage space up front. Depending on your given needs you'll have to consider storage racks or carriers to try and bring some added utility to your electric car. That being said roof racks and the like can have a noticeable impact on your range/efficiency.
 

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Taycan looks to be more of a performance car and less of a family car than Model S. Less interior room and cargo capacity but better handling and a more traditional performance car interior with lots of options. Buyers will decide which features are most important to them and purchase accordingly.
 

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Tesla days of market dominance were always limited, but they've accomplished what they set out to do and that was to make EV's mass adopted. Still a bit confused by the decisions and changes they've been making to the Model as of late, and I don't know if their $35k goal will ever be attainable. But who knows what new benchmarks they will set with the upcoming Roadster.
 

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Although Tesla wasn't that great to start with i'll give them the credit of being a brand that made it through to the main stream, something we haven't seen decades. Instead its been American brands disappearing and coming close to the chopping block
 

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Having an American automaker with the top selling luxury vehicle is no small feat. Their main issue has always been scaling and you can bet that even German brands will run into issues as they begin mass production with their EV's.
 

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at this point it might be a matter of waiting for an investor and fortunately Tesla had quite a few big wealth funds interested
the chances of this happening will only grow as the EV segments heat up and investors find somewhere to put their money.
 

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Last week I ordered a 2021 Taycan 4S, abandoning Tesla and my 2015 Model S 85D. It was a nice run and for a couple of years Tesla was unassailable in the EV space. But Tesla simply does not take care of its customers or give a damn about brand loyalty. Case in point: I ordered a Model Y to replace my $103K 85D. When it came time to deliver my Y, Tesla offered $21K for my pristine 85D, $10K below the KBB low trade-in threshold. I was infuriated, appalled and frankly insulted. I cancelled my order for the Y and placed my order for my Taycan 4S, negotiated a great discount for the Porsche and received $36K for my Model S as a trade-in. Sayonara Tesla!
 

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Nope I still having my Model S long range and added a Taycan. Very different cars, both are awesome and thanks to Tesla we all are driving an electric Taycan. They disrupted the automobile industry and dealer business and I hope they keep doing it
 

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Nope I still having my Model S long range and added a Tesla. Very different cars, both are awesome and thanks to Tesla we all are driving an electric Taycan. They disrupted the automobile industry and dealer business and I hope they keep doing it
 

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Still hard to drive the Taycan across country compared to the Tesla. We are doing a trip from Denver to Durango CO, and while I would love to drive our Taycan, I will be taking the Model S purely because it will be so much easier to keep it charged. While Porsche has announced a European charging network, we are still stuck with EA. 🤮
 

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Still hard to drive the Taycan across country compared to the Tesla. We are doing a trip from Denver to Durango CO, and while I would love to drive our Taycan, I will be taking the Model S purely because it will be so much easier to keep it charged. While Porsche has announced a European charging network, we are still stuck with EA. 🤮
it is a shame that there is no dislike button so I am forced to rebut your remark. there is no reason that your taycan could not make that trip, the charging options for your tesla are no better on that route. in fact because you are not limited to tesla superchargers for fast charging I'd say that there are more fast charging options available to the taycan.
are you aware of plugshare
 

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it is a shame that there is no dislike button so I am forced to rebut your remark. there is no reason that your taycan could not make that trip, the charging options for your tesla are no better on that route. in fact because you are not limited to tesla superchargers for fast charging I'd say that there are more fast charging options available to the taycan.
are you aware of plugshare
Yes, I have Plugshare, EVgo, ChargePoint, ABRP, etc. My experience is based on a trip my wife and I took from Denver to Phoenix in February and dealing with all the ElectrifyAmerica charging stations. Now, I will admit it was really cold, but I think my experience in very similar to many folks in that the chargers are unreliable, you have to call Customer Service very frequently, chargers being down, etc. I should give it another try this summer while it's warm and see if we run into the same problems. But yes, you're right. We could do that trip in the Taycan, just a little more planning would be required.
 

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Yes, I have Plugshare, EVgo, ChargePoint, ABRP, etc. My experience is based on a trip my wife and I took from Denver to Phoenix in February and dealing with all the ElectrifyAmerica charging stations. Now, I will admit it was really cold, but I think my experience in very similar to many folks in that the chargers are unreliable, you have to call Customer Service very frequently, chargers being down, etc. I should give it another try this summer while it's warm and see if we run into the same problems. But yes, you're right. We could do that trip in the Taycan, just a little more planning would be required.
agreed about the reliability factor, I figure that I have a 50/50 chance of a trouble free charging session. I am beginning to wonder if the car itself is the problem.
 

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Still hard to drive the Taycan across country compared to the Tesla. We are doing a trip from Denver to Durango CO, and while I would love to drive our Taycan, I will be taking the Model S purely because it will be so much easier to keep it charged. While Porsche has announced a European charging network, we are still stuck with EA. 🤮
In 2012 I got my first EV a Model S, I told my wife, no worries we have a ICE Jaguar as a back up for trips, then I realized that I didn’t need a Gasoline car as a back up. Now I got the Taycan and I told my wife, no worries we have a Tesla as a back up for long trips. How time changes is amazin, now having said that in the next 3 years electrify America will have a network as good as Tesla‘s, I know that because no matter how amazing is the car, 50% of the experience is the charging network, hence the only way they can survive this revolution.
 

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Had a Tesla X P100D – it sparked the EV idea in me, but the car's not good.
Actually, Tesla's not a premium car, just priced like one. It drives coach…
So Taycan was the obvious next step. Still very happy!
 
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