[St00k]

Hey guys. I want to make another video for the YouTube channel about why to pick a Taycan over the Tesla Model S.

I've got my own ideas, but I'd be curious to hear yours.

Some obvious ones:
- Charge time
- dealer network
- German quality -
- Customer service - Porsche is tops in the JD Power Customer Service Index (CSI) study
- Expected reliability

What am I missing in your opinion?

 

[r553]

You hit most of my points. I look forward to how the car handles. My early concern was it would handle like a Panamera.

 

[St00k]

You hit most of my points. I look forward to how the car handles. My early concern was it would handle like a Panamera.

You don't like how the Panamera drives? I'v never heard anyone complain about Panamera handling. What in particular?

 

[discopimps]

Am I the only one who doesn't see the Taycan and Model S as direct competitors? I think they target different segments.

 

[St00k]

Am I the only one who doesn't see the Taycan and Model S as direct competitors? I think they target different segments.

I'm curious why you think that. Pricing should be similar. And performance. Both "prestige EV sedans".

 

[discopimps]

The model S is looking to be 5in longer and 5 in taller? Does the Taycan seat 5 or 4? Pricing is similar, performance similar, but I don't see a family with 2 kids looking at a Taycan while they would look at a model S. I would see Taycan as M3/M4 and AMG C63 cross shopping.

 

[St00k]

The model S is looking to be 5in longer and 5 in taller? Does the Taycan seat 5 or 4? Pricing is similar, performance similar, but I don't see a family with 2 kids looking at a Taycan while they would look at a model S. I would see Taycan as M3/M4 and AMG C63 cross shopping.

Realistically, I think anyone buying a Model 3 or Taycan has an SUV for their family.

 

[Friedrich]

Taycan & Tesla S are competitors

Am I the only one who doesn't see the Taycan and Model S as direct competitors? I think they target different segments.

I actually almost bought the Tesla S, but as a lifelong Porsche loyalist, decided to put $2500 down on the Taycan in January (supposedly 85th on the list at the local dealership!!). Those were the ONLY two cars i was considering. Eventually the plan is to buy the Tesla Y as my everyday car, as the Tesla X is too big form my high-rise parking spot, and I currently have an Acura MDX suv that soon will need replacement

 

[St00k]

I actually almost bought the Tesla S, but as a lifelong Porsche loyalist, decided to put $2500 down on the Taycan in January (supposedly 85th on the list at the local dealership!!). Those were the ONLY two cars i was considering. Eventually the plan is to buy the Tesla Y as my everyday car, as the Tesla X is too big form my high-rise parking spot, and I currently have an Acura MDX suv that soon will need replacement

That's a lot of deposits!
I know Porsche has said a LOT of Taycan deposit holders were not former Porsche owners, but I suspect there are still a lot like you who are loyalists.

What dealership if you don't mind me asking?

And welcome to the forum BTW! (I run the home page news on the site, so if you ever get any exciting new info on the car, please post it to the community.)

 

[Friedrich]

That's a lot of deposits!
I know Porsche has said a LOT of Taycan deposit holders were not former Porsche owners, but I suspect there are still a lot like you who are loyalists.

What dealership if you don't mind me asking?

And welcome to the forum BTW! (I run the home page news on the site, so if you ever get any exciting new info on the car, please post it to the community.)

Perimeter Porsche Atlanta (formerly Jim Ellis) claimed I was 85th at this dealership. Worried that their allotment from Porsche was already sold out!

 

[bruce.richardson178]

We've owned a Tesla Model S for about 18 months now. Absolutely love driving electric. It smokes pretty much anything on the road. You do have to make sure everything is securely fastened down or contents will be flying all over the car. We've been moving away from high horsepower cars/SUVs over the last couple of years and getting into electric. The only drawback is that electric cars make no real noise other than wind noise when accelerating from 0 - 60 in 2.6 seconds. No more 700hp 8000 RPM exhaust music. We were going to buy another Tesla but we were concerned about owning two Tesla cars when Tesla isn't the most financially sound company (lots of debts coming due etc).

I recently changed my Mercedes ML63 AMG (tuned to about 700hp) in for a Cayenne Platinum Edition E Hybrid in March 2018 and put down a deposit for the Mission E at the time (now Taycan). I would use the Cayenne until the Taycan arrived.

The reason I bought a Taycan (or put down a deposit):

Pros
- Looks. Loved the Mission E concept and was hoping the production car would look like it.
- Electric cars requires very little maintenance.
- Electric is very cost effective.
- If it drives like other Porsche cars I've driven on the road and track, it should be a great car.
- Charge at home.
- Dealer network / customer service.
- Interior/exterior fit and finish. Tesla can't compare.

Concerns
- Time until it is delivered. At the time they really didn't know when it would be delivered.
- Unknown cost for something equivalent to a Tesla P100D.
- Tesla Auto Pilot (FSD) is pretty good. Nothing of the sort on the Taycan that I know of.
- Limited charging network.

 

[TEV31]

@bruce.richardson178 Porsche's system right now is just an adaptive cruise control system.
Its one advantage that Tesla has and will continue in the coming years given their announcements. Taycan on the other hand is said to get "improved self-driving capabilities" what ever that means. I'm not too concerns about that however, a driver focused EV is what I want and am 80% confident Porsche can deliver on.

 

[St00k]

We've owned a Tesla Model S for about 18 months now. Absolutely love driving electric. It smokes pretty much anything on the road. You do have to make sure everything is securely fastened down or contents will be flying all over the car. We've been moving away from high horsepower cars/SUVs over the last couple of years and getting into electric. The only drawback is that electric cars make no real noise other than wind noise when accelerating from 0 - 60 in 2.6 seconds. No more 700hp 8000 RPM exhaust music. We were going to buy another Tesla but we were concerned about owning two Tesla cars when Tesla isn't the most financially sound company (lots of debts coming due etc).

I recently changed my Mercedes ML63 AMG (tuned to about 700hp) in for a Cayenne Platinum Edition E Hybrid in March 2018 and put down a deposit for the Mission E at the time (now Taycan). I would use the Cayenne until the Taycan arrived.

The reason I bought a Taycan (or put down a deposit):

Pros
- Looks. Loved the Mission E concept and was hoping the production car would look like it.
- Electric cars requires very little maintenance.
- Electric is very cost effective.
- If it drives like other Porsche cars I've driven on the road and track, it should be a great car.
- Charge at home.
- Dealer network / customer service.
- Interior/exterior fit and finish. Tesla can't compare.

Concerns
- Time until it is delivered. At the time they really didn't know when it would be delivered.
- Unknown cost for something equivalent to a Tesla P100D.
- Tesla Auto Pilot (FSD) is pretty good. Nothing of the sort on the Taycan that I know of.
- Limited charging network.

Hey Bruce and welcome!

Great summary.

As for the charging stations, I'd encourage you to check out this. It should reassure you that there will be a solid network of chargers. Admittedly not as good as Tesla's right now, but getting there fast.
https://www.taycanevforum.com/forum/161-charging-batteries/293-350kw-charing-stations-where-they-where-will-they.html

PS. I run the home page news so if you ever get any solid details from Porsche around the car that aren't public yet, please share it with me.

 

[Ken-S]

We should press Porsche for more destination based chargers. I rather drive to a mall, major commuter hub and so on to charge rather than the dealer.

 

[[email protected]]

All Tessla are quite ugly. And I am not sure that the car maker will make 10 years from now.

 

[St00k]

All Tessla are quite ugly. And I am not sure that the car maker will make 10 years from now.

lol

Personally I've always been a fan of the Model S design. The X just looks odd. The 3 looks great from some angles and like a frog from others. And the Y just looks boring.

 

[TEV31]

lol

Personally I've always been a fan of the Model S design. The X just looks odd. The 3 looks great from some angles and like a frog from others. And the Y just looks boring.

they are quite refreshing to look at like Jaguar's among all the jagged and futuristic bodylines on most new vehicles today