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The successor to the 918 hypercar might very well be fully electric. This news comes direct from the top man at the famed sports car brand.

When asked about the possibility of just such a model during the recent Cayenne Coupe reveal, CEO Oliver Blume responded. “We have a big history here, and we’ll have one in the future."

He followed up that if Porsche does go fully electric, they won't half-ass it. "It has to be the best in the market, the highest performing… right now we haven’t got a concept for that car. But might it be a pure-electric car? Yes.”

That's all Blume would let on about the possibilty of just such a car, but he did have more to share on the upcoming Taycan./

“I drove it in Sweden three weeks ago,” he said, hinting that it will please even GT3 drivers. “It will have a driving dynamic you have never seen on before on an electric car. There will be GT3 drivers who will be interested in the Taycan, and have both of them. A dream garage.”

Those waiting for the Taycan won't have to wait much longer. It will debut in September with deliveries in January of 2020. The Cross Turismo will arrive roughly only year later. After that Porosche has promised a full-electric version of the next-gen Macan, but hasn't given a timeline for its release.

Beyond that, Blume hinted that a fully-electric Cayenne will be next on the list. We're surprised it isn't coming sooner.
 

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Not surprised to hear that Porsche is considering a Spyder successor, with all rumored upcoming electric models from Ferrari, Lamborghini etc. If it ends up being more powerful than the 887hp hybrid model, we could very well see a price tag north of $1million.
 

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If anyone is serious about getting their hands on some hybridized or fully electrified Porsche supercar/hypercar, you should keep eye on what Ferrari is up to




We are only one week away from the official reveal of Ferrari’s new hybrid supercar and we have to admit the Italians have done a good job keeping test prototypes hidden from sight.

These are the first photos of an actual prototype and not a test mule. Mind you, a prototype was also chased by a motorcyclist and a 488 Spider driver last week, but this is the clearest look yet at the hybrid supercar that will sit above both the F8 Tributo and the 812 Superfast in Ferrari’s lineup.

That’s because it will have a system output of 1,000 PS (986 hp) from an interesting setup: a 3.9-liter twin-turbo V8 engine assisted by three electric motors. According to recent reports, the as-yet-unnamed model will feature the same V8 engine as the F8 Tributo with help coming from two electric motors mounted on the front axle and a third motor integrated into the transmission.

Given this configuration, the hybrid supercar should feature e-AWD; the rumored 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) time of only 2.0 seconds certainly suggests that.

We don’t have many clues regarding the new Ferrari’s looks, but as these spy photos show, it will have the typical proportions of a mid-engined supercar. We can also see that it features two big round exhaust tips and sleek horizontal LED headlights. Also obvious are the massive brakes, most likely of the carbon ceramic kind.

The yellow warning sticker on the doors and the front bonnet is a clear indication that the prototype features an electrified powertrain. Underneath the heavy camouflage, the car should be pretty much finalized given that it’s scheduled to have its public debut on May 31.
 

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Also, the next generation BMW i8 is worth watching. Maybe this time around it'll be more than a glorified GT car with fancy doors!



BMW is on the verge of making the next generation of its flagship i8 sports car a fully electric model, according to sources at the firm.

Bosses are at a crucial decision-making stage with the next i8 and senior officials at the German car maker are now said to be favouring a pure-electric model.



by Greg Kable
20 May 2019

BMW is on the verge of making the next generation of its flagship i8 sports car a fully electric model, according to sources at the firm.

Bosses are at a crucial decision-making stage with the next i8 and senior officials at the German car maker are now said to be favouring a pure-electric model.


The second-generation i8, tentatively slated for introduction by the end of 2023, was originally conceived as a high-powered four-wheel drive evolution of today’s petrol-electric hybrid. That type of set-up has been clearly indicated by BMW development boss Klaus Fröhlich on a number of occasions over the past year.

However, recent information out of BMW’s R&D headquarters in Munich, Germany, reveals the development of an alternative plan under which the next i8 would adopt a newly developed pure-electric drivetrain. The Current i8 combines a three-pot petrol with electric power move would be part of a “race to road strategy” that, Autocar has been told, aims to provide a “tangible link” between BMW’s involvement in Formula E and its i electric car division.

The alternative pure-electric plan developed for the i8 revolves around what one key Munich insider describes as a “new high-torque pure-electric driveline”. Its adoption could put the successor to today’s first-generation model into direct competition with a number of emerging limited-volume zero-emission supercars, including the Tesla Roadster and a planned pure-electric replacement for the existing Audi R8, while eclipsing rivals such as the planned plug-in hybrid Porsche 911.

Secrecy surrounds the new electric driveline and the amount of power it develops, although Autocar has been told it shares key elements with the four-wheel-drive system being developed for the production version of the BMW iNext, which is undergoing testing ahead of its planned launch in 2021.

Among its innovations is a new generation of electric motor. Developed in-house, it is claimed to achieve “significantly higher rotational speeds” than the existing synchronous units used in the hybrid system of today’s i8.

Prototype versions of the new electric motor, which is scheduled to be produced at BMW’s drivetrain plant in Munich, have already been tested in i8 mules, according to Munich-based engineering sources. They suggest the new motor has been conceived to provide future BMWs with the high-revving characteristics of the company’s combustion-engined cars.

The battery pack for the all-electric BMW sports car is expected to draw on lithium ion cell technology from Chinese battery specialist CATL. The two companies have already announced plans for battery manufacture at BMW’s Dingolfing plant in Germany from 2021 in readiness for the introduction of the iNext.

Although BMW has studied automotive applications for solid-state battery technology with US partner Solid Power since 2017, one source said such tech is not deemed sufficiently mature for consideration for the next i8. The source admitted that although simulation tests under laboratory conditions have brought promising results, it is still not yet ready in the unit capacity that would be required for ranges over 250 miles.

A further sticking point in the proposal to turn the i8 into a pure-electric model is the platform. Although it has been described as being suitable to support pure-electric capability, the existing model’s carbonfibre structure lacks the modularity of more modern skateboard-style designs used by rival car makers.

One possible scenario is to base the future i8 on a modified platform from the production version of the iNext (above), which, unlike the upcoming iX3 and i4, is set to receive a newly developed structure.
 
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