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Not much to get from this Taycan Ring' video but you can get a sense of its cornering abilities with rear wheel steer in action?


"During the Industry Pool at the Nürburgring I have filmed the 2019 Porsche Taycan testing on track.

This new Taycan test mule doesn't reveal any major design tweaks in comparison to older ones. The vehicle continues to have a low-slung nose with oddly shaped rectangular headlights. The front brake calipers are absolutely gigantic. You can also spot the cover for the charging port on the driver side front fender. This vehicle has a racing seat and roll cage for testing. At the back, Porsche continues to include ludicrously large fake taillights. The skinny strip of LEDs are the only truly functional part.

Porsche reports that the Taycan can hit 62 miles per hour (100 kilometers per hour) in less than 3.5 seconds and have a 310-mile (500-kilometer) range. To test the machine, the company instituted a massive development campaign that included 3.728 million miles (6 million kilometers) of on-road testing and 6.2 million miles (10 million kilometers) of driving in the virtual world.

The Taycan's debut will come before the end of the year, and the Taycan Cross Turismo wagon will expand the lineup in 2020 by adding a more spacious variant. More EVs will follow them."
 

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I know this makes sense given how low they Taycan's center of gravity is, but my biggest takeaway is how well it stays planted in the corners. It's hard for me to see the rear wheel steering in the video but if it's working in this video then it definitely has a big impact on how the Taycan corners. Seeing it out on the track makes me even more excited for this year's release date!
 

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I understand the tire squeal on curves but it sure sounds noisy on straight-a-ways for a EV.
I wouldn't be too concerned about that for now as automakers do all sorts of funky stuff during R&D, this might be one of them.
 

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@St00k that s-turn the Taycan was initially does a great job of showing the rear steer in action. You just have to play it at full screen.
 

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@St00k that s-turn the Taycan was initially does a great job of showing the rear steer in action. You just have to play it at full screen.
I read that four-wheel steer will come standard from motorsportmagazine, can anyone confirm if that will actually happen from launch?

"It will offer well over 600bhp combined output from its front and rear electric motors, with four-wheel drive, four-wheel steering and air suspension as standard. At least two other Taycans will follow with power outputs in the 500-600bhp and 400-500bhp range. A single motor rear-drive Taycan likely to have only a little over 300bhp has been engineered too, but will only be introduced if the marketplace demands it."
 

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All of the magazine articles and information on the Internet so far are pure speculation. Porsche has given out little if any specifications on the Taycan So at this point everything is a guess. Until September or until something official comes out from the Mother Ship no one knows. I was at my local Porsche Dealership last week and they had no clue on specs., colors, prices or timing on actually ordering or first production. All mental masterbation at this point......

Porsche is either pulling off the greatest marketing campaign of the century being so closed mouthed about the Taycan causing massive speculation and interest or making a huge mistake waiting so long to let information out where those who have placed deposits may actually be dissapointed when the final version comes out and is not like the imaginary renderings on the Internet and then want their deposits back in large numbers. The closest Porsche dealership to me is in the middle of the Houston, Texas Energy Corridor with hundreds of the largest corporate head offices for oil, gas and energy production on the planet. There are also older established subdivisions there with multi million dollar houses and as of last week this dealership was still taking deposits on the Taycan. Makes one wonder.....
 

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All of the magazine articles and information on the Internet so far are pure speculation. Porsche has given out little if any specifications on the Taycan So at this point everything is a guess. Until September or until something official comes out from the Mother Ship no one knows. I was at my local Porsche Dealership last week and they had no clue on specs., colors, prices or timing on actually ordering or first production. All mental masterbation at this point......

Porsche is either pulling off the greatest marketing campaign of the century being so closed mouthed about the Taycan causing massive speculation and interest or making a huge mistake waiting so long to let information out where those who have placed deposits may actually be dissapointed when the final version comes out and is not like the imaginary renderings on the Internet and then want their deposits back in large numbers. The closest Porsche dealership to me is in the middle of the Houston, Texas Energy Corridor with hundreds of the largest corporate head offices for oil, gas and energy production on the planet. There are also older established subdivisions there with multi million dollar houses and as of last week this dealership was still taking deposits on the Taycan. Makes one wonder.....
I'd be curious to know how many pre-orders they have. I've heard most dealers have between 80 and 120 pre-orders.
 

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Only someone high up at Porsche would know how many pre-orders dealerships had collected. Not trying to be a jerk here but does your source actually work for Porsche and at a level above a regular sales person?
 

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Only someone high up at Porsche would know how many pre-orders dealerships had collected. Not trying to be a jerk here but does your source actually work for Porsche and at a level above a regular sales person?
Just sales folks. It's actually from customers who have chatted with sales folks. I get dealers don't know much, but it's the only info we have right now.

The numbers sound realistic too. Basically 80 pre-orders per 190 dealers is about 15000 cars. Porsche knows a lot of those won't actually come through on buying the car.

Speculation is kind of BS, but it's all we have right now.
 

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Yes, all speculation at this point. It would be to the advantage for sales people to tell customers that a certain mark is pre-ordered to the max to increase interest. Whenever something new is in shortage it makes folks want it even more thinking it is rare and one of a kind even though everything is mass produced today. It will be interesting to see the actual sales figures in the future. First and second year sales will probably be high then drop and level off. Those of us that are interested in EV’s are a relatively small group. All my local friends think I am crazy for buying one. We shall see. I just hope the initial Taycan group does not have many bugs to work out and dependable.
 

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Yes, all speculation at this point. It would be to the advantage for sales people to tell customers that a certain mark is pre-ordered to the max to increase interest. Whenever something new is in shortage it makes folks want it even more thinking it is rare and one of a kind even though everything is mass produced today. It will be interesting to see the actual sales figures in the future. First and second year sales will probably be high then drop and level off. Those of us that are interested in EV’s are a relatively small group. All my local friends think I am crazy for buying one. We shall see. I just hope the initial Taycan group does not have many bugs to work out and dependable.
Actually, there's no advantage in saying anything. People will buy Porsche regardless.

Its the beauty of being a brand with a dedicated following.
 

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Its crazy to see that level of demand from a single dealer so soon unless i'm underestimating the volume these dealers do of Porsche's overall. We also have to ask how many are returning Porsche owners or completely new.
 

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Its crazy to see that level of demand from a single dealer so soon unless i'm underestimating the volume these dealers do of Porsche's overall. We also have to ask how many are returning Porsche owners or completely new.
I've hear similar numbers from many dealers. Those numbers don't surprise me.

Remember, a LOT of folks who put down a pre-order won't actually buy. For any number of reasons.

Porsche USA sold 57,202 last year. That works out to almost exactly 300 cars per dealer. So selling 80 Taycans isn't unreasonable. It's high for sure. Selling 40 per dealer wold work out to 7640 cars. That would be about 1/3 of the entire global production run of 20k Taycans....
 
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