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I think one of the things that made Tesla so popular was their charging infrastructure. Sure the cars are great, but being able to charge them pretty much anywhere really made me comfortable in buying a Model S.

I think the Porsche Taycan charging time is the "killer app" for Porsche.



The official specs from Porsche put the Taycan charging time at approximately 15 minutes for 248.5 miles of range. Porsche has yet to release the official specs on how long it will take for a complete charge.

That number might be somewhat meaningless - like talking about how big your gas tank is as opposed to your car's fuel economy.

Porsche built the Taycan with two permanently excited synchronous motors that combine to make 600 hp and 310 miles of total range. The lithium-ion batteries total 800-volts and were built not for overall size and range, but for fast charging.

Another advantage of this system is that the smaller batteries mean less weight, which is the enemy of performance. And Porsche knows a thing or two about performance!

Going back to the charging time, that works out to about 62 miles of additional range in just 4 minutes. That's well beyond what Tesla offers.

This is all the result of Porsche's "own" charging network called IONITY that offers 350 kW charging vs the 120 kW Tesla Supercharger network. It's actually a joint venture with a bunch of other automakers, including Ford, VW and the other German automakers like Mercedes and BMW.

Owners will also be able to use existing chargers - another nice perk!

I read one report that after the next big push for Porsche will be in overall battery size/capability. With the Taycan set to deliver 310 miles of range on a single charge, the next evolution is targeting 620 miles. I know it's premature to start talking about the "next gen" Taycan when the first one isn't even on sale yet, but it's clear Porsche is thinking long and hard about this.

Looking even further ahead, Porsche said that they plan to have half their cars sold be electrified by 2025.

Currently Tesla has 1,375 Supercharger Stations across the US. How long before Porsche (and it's partners) top this?

Apparently it might not take all that long because Porsche has partnered with Electrify America, which will install 900 stations across in US by mid-2019, and with numerous charging ports per station, that's 5,000 charge ports in total. And that doesn't include all the charging stations being built at every Porsche dealer.

See our detailed story on Porsche's Charging Infrastructure here.

For a look at Porsche's new Fast Chargers, see here.

Here's an interesting video on Fast Charging
 

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Most of the new EV's coming to market are trying to deliver on an 80% charge in less than 30 minutes. Both Tesla and Jaguar have this capability. Moving forward we should also start to see more universal charging stations, so coverage is better for everyone. I'm more curious who will have the least battery degradation.
 

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Since most EV owners will probably install a home charging station, its only on rare occasions or longer trips where you'll even have to make use of a public charger. The average range has nearly doubled from what EV's were capable of just a few years ago. If the improvement in tech continues at the same accelerated pace, 500 miles plus isn't out of the question with future iterations of the Taycan.
 

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Regen systems will likely improve past just braking as well. I don't think solar panels can ever really become a viable solution for cars simple due to their cost and the size that would be required to generate enough power.
 

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Since most EV owners will probably install a home charging station, its only on rare occasions or longer trips where you'll even have to make use of a public charger. The average range has nearly doubled from what EV's were capable of just a few years ago. If the improvement in tech continues at the same accelerated pace, 500 miles plus isn't out of the question with future iterations of the Taycan.
This is so true. I was writing up today's home page story about the Boxster EV and I can't believe the Boxster E concept from a few years ago made just 121 hp and a range of only 106 miles.

https://www.taycanevforum.com/forum/4-2020-porsche-taycan-news/283-boxster-ev-cayman-ev-coming-2022-a.html
 

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Finally some first hand experience charging the Taycan is showing up and this video shows how the charging progresses throughout a 30-minute timeframe.

I recommend all owners to watch this.

Watch a Porsche Taycan Fast Charge Enough Power in 30 Minutes for 55 U.S. Homes on Thanksgiving!
"The new All Electric 2020 Porsche Taycan can charge at a rate that will easily exceed Tesla's Best fast charging time. In this video watch us charge the new EV Porsche Taycan from 4 to 80 percent of charge in just a half an hour. Which is enough electricity to Power 55 American homes all cooking turkeys on Thanksgiving."
 

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The fullychargedshow just posted their video on what its like charging the Taycan on a road trip.

Jonny has already experienced the Porsche Taycan launch control ability (0-62 in 2.8 for the Turbo S using over-boost function) in a previous world exclusive Fully Charged episode, but this film is the first road drive of the finished car. A chance to experience the 270kW rapid charging capability, we drove the 2020 Taycan Turbo (not really a turbo, but more a performance level name - 0-62mph in 3.2) from Gothenburg Sweden to Copenhagen Denmark as part of the international launch of the model. Porsche held an 18-day road trip launch event where 18 cars were driven in stints 6,440km across 9 different countries. The 280-mile/450km range, 800v, 100kWh (93.4 of which is useable), up to 680PS (500kW) 850nm twin motor rear-steer Turbo price starts at £115,000, but there will be cheaper versions of Porsche’s first EV coming within the next six months. In stock form both Taycan Turbo and the £138,000 Turbo S feature 625PS (460kw) of power, but it is in over-boost mode for those infamous relentless launch control drag races where the power differences are unlocked. Turbo S gets 761PS (560kW) compared to the 680PS (500kW) Turbo. It may not have the range of a Tesla Model S P100D (the so-called Plaid does not yet exist as a production vehicle), or the 0-60 on paper, or the seating capacity (Taycan is a 4 seat or optional 5) but the Porsche chassis promises better road holding and stopping performance. The Taycan can also charge up to 270kw, which translates to 5-80 percent charge in 22 minutes. Or 62 miles (100km) of driving in 5 mins. And then there’s the build quality that a legacy car manufacturer brings to the table.
 
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