One piece of advice (and it's not that you can find better things to do with $80 grrr than waste it so you can get to 60 two seconds quicker) . . . DO NOT think that you can have a Taycan as your only car. I have three Porsche dealers within 35 miles of my home in Fort Lauderdale and probably have more charging stations than most and the infrastructure here SUCKS. I have taken my Taycan to Pittsburgh, South Carolina twice and Tampa twice. Each trip was a f**cking nightmare. You will soon find that for your sanity you will be limited to trips of 100 miles or less, i.e. what you can charge at your house. You've heard of range anxiety? It's a misnomer. You'll have a gauge to tell you if you're going to make it to the charging station. The anxiety is to what you're going to find when you get there . . . charging posts will always be inoperable, Level 3 charging speeds will routinely be almost as slow as Level 2 and everyday the chances increase that you'll have to wait a half hour behind somebody already there. Keep a second, gas powered car . . . if you don't, you're going to wish you did.
New to Porsche, and considering a CPO 2021 Taycan Turbo (EDIT: bought)
EDIT 3: I got the car! I am still learning the systems, and I plan to do a full manual read-through in the coming week. The acceleration on this thing is just BRUTAL. Forget the pure insanity of launch control - I can knock heads back just by punching it from 25 miles per hour. FREAKING CRAZY. Also, the instant I got it out this morning, 4 neighbors and their kids came over to check it out. I stopped at the local Indian grocery store and he came out and brought his kids out to see since they were playing in the store. It's definitely an attention-getter, perhaps more than I had anticipated.
EDIT 2: Now I'm conflicted... I have found the "perfect" CPO car, but am just scared about reliability if it was my only car (given that my wife has a car, but has to drive for work also). Am I just overthinking it, or are these too unreliable even with all of the updates? Is there anything I should look for in the service history?
EDIT: Question removed. After seeing the sheer number of issues posted here and on TaycanForum as well, I have decided that it's not worth the risk of dealing with all of the numerous potential issues that seem to pop up regularly on this car.
I appreciate the feedback, and will consider the vehicle in a future model year, but I'll probably be looking to other non-Volkswagen Group brands at this point.
EDIT 2: Now I'm conflicted... I have found the "perfect" CPO car, but am just scared about reliability if it was my only car (given that my wife has a car, but has to drive for work also). Am I just overthinking it, or are these too unreliable even with all of the updates? Is there anything I should look for in the service history?
EDIT: Question removed. After seeing the sheer number of issues posted here and on TaycanForum as well, I have decided that it's not worth the risk of dealing with all of the numerous potential issues that seem to pop up regularly on this car.
I appreciate the feedback, and will consider the vehicle in a future model year, but I'll probably be looking to other non-Volkswagen Group brands at this point.
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Hi - I appreciate the feedback. As to range, the longest I can see myself driving this is 120 miles each way, and I know of several high-speed chargers within 5-6 miles of each end of the trip and a couple along the way. (That trip, for reference is Cleveland, OH to Pittsburgh, PA.)One piece of advice (and it's not that you can find better things to do with $80 grrr than waste it so you can get to 60 two seconds quicker) . . . DO NOT think that you can have a Taycan as your only car. I have three Porsche dealers within 35 miles of my home in Fort Lauderdale and probably have more charging stations than most and the infrastructure here SUCKS. I have taken my Taycan to Pittsburgh, South Carolina twice and Tampa twice. Each trip was a f**cking nightmare. You will soon find that for your sanity you will be limited to trips of 100 miles or less, i.e. what you can charge at your house. You've heard of range anxiety? It's a misnomer. You'll have a gauge to tell you if you're going to make it to the charging station. The anxiety is to what you're going to find when you get there . . . charging posts will always be inoperable, Level 3 charging speeds will routinely be almost as slow as Level 2 and everyday the chances increase that you'll have to wait a half hour behind somebody already there. Keep a second, gas powered car . . . if you don't, you're going to wish you did.
Have you used PlugShare to do your routing? From what I have heard from friends/others, the PlugShare reports on the chargers are pretty accurate, and you can generally check in the morning if there are known issues at a station before you head out, and thus plan to hit another location. Or have you already tried such an approach and it was still a bad outcome?
I'm looking to move 100% electric for not just performance, but reduced costs and maintenance. If you don't think the Taycan will do the trick, my next stop would be something like an EV6 or the new Ioniq 6.
The problems I cited are not limited to the Taycan, which IMHO, is the best looking car on the road and unmatched in terms of driving enjoyment. I'm a true believer . . . my house has been 110% solar (generate more than I use) and I have a solar water heater, both since 2015 . . . but I think you're going to be severely disappointed if you think an EV can be your only car, regardless of whatever EV you choose.
And, here's something else you might not be aware of . . . if you pay to charge at Electrify America, it's $.36/kW here in Lauderdale. I assume it's about the same at other charging stations. According to my on-board computer, it takes roughly 29-31 kW to go 100 miles. Let's say $.10 per mile. My hybrid gets 40 mpg. If gas is less than $4/gallon, the fuel costs are cheaper for the hybrid than the EV. The "cost savings" are all propaganda.
And, here's something else you might not be aware of . . . if you pay to charge at Electrify America, it's $.36/kW here in Lauderdale. I assume it's about the same at other charging stations. According to my on-board computer, it takes roughly 29-31 kW to go 100 miles. Let's say $.10 per mile. My hybrid gets 40 mpg. If gas is less than $4/gallon, the fuel costs are cheaper for the hybrid than the EV. The "cost savings" are all propaganda.
Thanks for following up. I probably was not clear enough, but I was explicitly not interested in the car for any form of road trip at all. As to charging costs, aside from a once-a-week trip from Cleveland, OH to Pittsburgh, PA, I would always be within 50 miles of home, so the assumption for cost/use was basically 95% home charging and hitting a fast charger near Pittsbugh before driving home. Given that my current S6 averages 18 MPG in the summer and 16-17 MPG in the winter, even the electric costs you listed above would be a net savings for me.The problems I cited are not limited to the Taycan, which IMHO, is the best looking car on the road and unmatched in terms of driving enjoyment. I'm a true believer . . . my house has been 110% solar (generate more than I use) and I have a solar water heater, both since 2015 . . . but I think you're going to be severely disappointed if you think an EV can be your only car, regardless of whatever EV you choose.
And, here's something else you might not be aware of . . . if you pay to charge at Electrify America, it's $.36/kW here in Lauderdale. I assume it's about the same at other charging stations. According to my on-board computer, it takes roughly 29-31 kW to go 100 miles. Let's say $.10 per mile. My hybrid gets 40 mpg. If gas is less than $4/gallon, the fuel costs are cheaper for the hybrid than the EV. The "cost savings" are all propaganda.
My wife just traded her ICE car in for a new Audi e-tron SUV and so far, has been happy with it, though she will also have to do the Pittsburgh 120-mile drive this week, so I guess we'll see. We'll be buying my 16-year-old a cheap ICE car soon as well, so in theory if something needed massive mileage, one of us could swap cars with him.
I'm feeling rather conflicted now, as I had found a perfectly-optioned CPO car up in New England and was considering flying out to drive it home, but got scared off by all of the issues reported here by owners. Here's the real question - outside of EV range/cost discussion, do you feel the car is reliable enough to be an "only car?"
Ironic that you should mention Pittsburgh. When I was up there last year, I fully charged up in Pittsburgh heading to Virginia through West Virginia. About 100 miles into WV, I learned through several telephone contacts with Electrify America and my nav "system" that there were zero Level 3 chargers in the entire state. So, I turned around and headed back to the 'burgh. Came up about 30 miles short. Waited 5 1/2 hours for a tow ($250, which Porsche reimbursed). Thinking about blowing an extra $100 grrr on a turbo? Buy yourself a nice, loaded 55 mpg hybrid and donate the other $30 grrrr to T2T.Thanks for following up. I probably was not clear enough, but I was explicitly not interested in the car for any form of road trip at all. As to charging costs, aside from a once-a-week trip from Cleveland, OH to Pittsburgh, PA, I would always be within 50 miles of home, so the assumption for cost/use was basically 95% home charging and hitting a fast charger near Pittsbugh before driving home. Given that my current S6 averages 18 MPG in the summer and 16-17 MPG in the winter, even the electric costs you listed above would be a net savings for me.
My wife just traded her ICE car in for a new Audi e-tron SUV and so far, has been happy with it, though she will also have to do the Pittsburgh 120-mile drive this week, so I guess we'll see. We'll be buying my 16-year-old a cheap ICE car soon as well, so in theory if something needed massive mileage, one of us could swap cars with him.
I'm feeling rather conflicted now, as I had found a perfectly-optioned CPO car up in New England and was considering flying out to drive it home, but got scared off by all of the issues reported here by owners. Here's the real question - outside of EV range/cost discussion, do you feel the car is reliable enough to be an "only car?"
Oops, missed your question . . . I've had my Taycan for almost two years; have 19,000 miles. Am very far from happy with the software issues and the ubiquitous German tendency to make things more complicated than they should be, but have had no mechanical issues at all. And, overall, I'm happy with the car . . . it's the best looking vehicle on the road and it's great to drive. I would recommend it, but definitely not if you don't have an ICE backup.
Hello Slappy_G. I’m here to weigh in about your hesitancy. I think my POV should be highly relevant to you since I purchased my 2020 Taycan Turbo (Launch Edition spec) in July 2021 as a non-CPO Dealer Demo vehicle. Best car purchase I’ve ever made.
In 22 months of ownership I’ve put 18,000 miles on the vehicle and I haven’t had a single problem that impacted the driving ability of the Taycan. I did have one problem where the Taycan lost its ability to connect with Porsche’s servers and my Porsche iPhone app but all that meant was I was driving an EV without the ability to remotely turn on the AC while my Taycan is parked in a hot parking lot while I’m grocery shopping. The problem was fixed under warranty and my dealer gave me a nice Cayenne loaner while they were working on my Taycan.
I think if you are getting a CPO Turbo that has All the equipment you want, that’s a tremendous opportunity given the additional years of warranty coverage the CPO program provides.
I also should remind you that all Taycan’s have real world driving range that far exceeds the EPA rating. During the warmest summer months in Arizona my estimated range on an 80% charge falls between 238 and 245 miles. During the cool winter months that drops to between 218 and 224 miles on an 80% charge.
I plan to keep my Taycan for at least 10 years and I am very confident it will every bit as reliable as my 11 year old 2012 Cayenne S has been - - never had a significant problem.
I say you can buy that CPO Taycan Turbo with confidence about its reliability!
I could also write a 5000 word essay on all of the positive aspects of owning and driving a Taycan Turbo but I won’t do that now.
If you want to pick my brain about anything regarding my experience owning and driving a slightly used Taycan Turbo, feel free to open up a private conversation here with me and I will share all details with you.
I reiterate that a CPO Taycan Turbo that has all the equipment you want is a rare opportunity that you should not walk away from lightly.
Good luck with your decision making.
In 22 months of ownership I’ve put 18,000 miles on the vehicle and I haven’t had a single problem that impacted the driving ability of the Taycan. I did have one problem where the Taycan lost its ability to connect with Porsche’s servers and my Porsche iPhone app but all that meant was I was driving an EV without the ability to remotely turn on the AC while my Taycan is parked in a hot parking lot while I’m grocery shopping. The problem was fixed under warranty and my dealer gave me a nice Cayenne loaner while they were working on my Taycan.
I think if you are getting a CPO Turbo that has All the equipment you want, that’s a tremendous opportunity given the additional years of warranty coverage the CPO program provides.
I also should remind you that all Taycan’s have real world driving range that far exceeds the EPA rating. During the warmest summer months in Arizona my estimated range on an 80% charge falls between 238 and 245 miles. During the cool winter months that drops to between 218 and 224 miles on an 80% charge.
I plan to keep my Taycan for at least 10 years and I am very confident it will every bit as reliable as my 11 year old 2012 Cayenne S has been - - never had a significant problem.
I say you can buy that CPO Taycan Turbo with confidence about its reliability!
I could also write a 5000 word essay on all of the positive aspects of owning and driving a Taycan Turbo but I won’t do that now.
If you want to pick my brain about anything regarding my experience owning and driving a slightly used Taycan Turbo, feel free to open up a private conversation here with me and I will share all details with you.
I reiterate that a CPO Taycan Turbo that has all the equipment you want is a rare opportunity that you should not walk away from lightly.
Good luck with your decision making.
I’ve had my Taycan CT Turbo for a year and have had zero problems. My daily mileage isn’t as good as advertised, but I’m sure nobody doing the testing was driving it like many Porsche drivers do. I love full acceleration (up to the speed limit of course!) and definitely DRIVE my Taycan. It’s always exhilarating. I’ve done one road trip, 220 miles each way, and drove it in Range mode, and had no issues - it went much further than I thought - all the way there non-stop. The Electrify America station I went to was in the back of a Wal-Mart, out of the way, where I traded stories and swapped seats with a Mercedes EQS guy for my 20 minute charge. His car was really nice, but I definitely prefer my Taycan. I’ve driven every Tesla, the Hyundai Ionic5, and Kia EV6 GT (nice!). None of them are Porsches. If you can get a good CPO deal on a Taycan Turbo, BUY IT! I bought my 2015 Panamera Turbo as a 3 year old CPO, and have loved every second of it. Zero regrets. Porsche just does things right.
As porscheguyfrom-az said, i plan on keeping my Taycan for a very long time. May be my last car purchase. I expect to have to replace the battery in 10-12 years, for probably around $20k, but I’m betting that it will be half the weight, or twice the range by then. And almost no maintenance costs (compared to ICE Porsches) between now and then. Worth it!
As porscheguyfrom-az said, i plan on keeping my Taycan for a very long time. May be my last car purchase. I expect to have to replace the battery in 10-12 years, for probably around $20k, but I’m betting that it will be half the weight, or twice the range by then. And almost no maintenance costs (compared to ICE Porsches) between now and then. Worth it!
Mr FlyDriveBike gives very good advice! Buy that CPO Turbo today Mr Slappy_G!! 😀I’ve had my Taycan CT Turbo for a year and have had zero problems. My daily mileage isn’t as good as advertised, but I’m sure nobody doing the testing was driving it like many Porsche drivers do. I love full acceleration (up to the speed limit of course!) and definitely DRIVE my Taycan. It’s always exhilarating. I’ve done one road trip, 220 miles each way, and drove it in Range mode, and had no issues - it went much further than I thought - all the way there non-stop. The Electrify America station I went to was in the back of a Wal-Mart, out of the way, where I traded stories and swapped seats with a Mercedes EQS guy for my 20 minute charge. His car was really nice, but I definitely prefer my Taycan. I’ve driven every Tesla, the Hyundai Ionic5, and Kia EV6 GT (nice!). None of them are Porsches. If you can get a good CPO deal on a Taycan Turbo, BUY IT! I bought my 2015 Panamera Turbo as a 3 year old CPO, and have loved every second of it. Zero regrets. Porsche just does things right.
As porscheguyfrom-az said, i plan on keeping my Taycan for a very long time. May be my last car purchase. I expect to have to replace the battery in 10-12 years, for probably around $20k, but I’m betting that it will be half the weight, or twice the range by then. And almost no maintenance costs (compared to ICE Porsches) between now and then. Worth it!
I bought my 2020 Taycan 4S new in Sept 2020. I now have about 43,000 miles and have had no real issues, software or other. Most of my EV concerns are with Electrify America. Knowing what I have experienced, I would make the same decision again.
Likewise here...I bought a 2020 Taycan 4S in 9/2020 and have have zero problems with the car....I will keep it as long as the battery warrantee is in force (8 years)...it has to be the best EV on the market.I bought my 2020 Taycan 4S new in Sept 2020. I now have about 43,000 miles and have had no real issues, software or other. Most of my EV concerns are with Electrify America. Knowing what I have experienced, I would make the same decision again.
I say you can buy that CPO Taycan Turbo with confidence about its reliability!
I reiterate that a CPO Taycan Turbo that has all the equipment you want is a rare opportunity that you should not walk away from lightly.
Good luck with your decision making.
I’ve had my Taycan CT Turbo for a year and have had zero problems. I’ve driven every Tesla, the Hyundai Ionic5, and Kia EV6 GT (nice!). None of them are Porsches. If you can get a good CPO deal on a Taycan Turbo, BUY IT! I bought my 2015 Panamera Turbo as a 3 year old CPO, and have loved every second of it. Zero regrets. Porsche just does things right.
As porscheguyfrom-az said, i plan on keeping my Taycan for a very long time. May be my last car purchase. I expect to have to replace the battery in 10-12 years, for probably around $20k, but I’m betting that it will be half the weight, or twice the range by then. And almost no maintenance costs (compared to ICE Porsches) between now and then. Worth it!
I bought my 2020 Taycan 4S new in Sept 2020. I now have about 43,000 miles and have had no real issues, software or other. Most of my EV concerns are with Electrify America. Knowing what I have experienced, I would make the same decision again.
OK, OK, you've all convinced me. I'm just getting the final piece sorted out, and I will be pulling the trigger on it.Likewise here...I bought a 2020 Taycan 4S in 9/2020 and have have zero problems with the car....I will keep it as long as the battery warrantee is in force (8 years)...it has to be the best EV on the market.
Post a photo once you have it. Best of luck with your Turbo.OK, OK, you've all convinced me. I'm just getting the final piece sorted out, and I will be pulling the trigger on it.
I forgot to ask the model year of your Taycan. Most of us replied with 2020 model year experience. I believe the ability to get Plug & Charge was started in 2022 and available via update to the 2021 model year. We have that for my wife's EV and it makes life easier.OK, OK, you've all convinced me. I'm just getting the final piece sorted out, and I will be pulling the trigger on it.
I have read some of the complaints on this forum, but the handful of Taycan owners I have e met all love the car.
Thanks for following up. I probably was not clear enough, but I was explicitly not interested in the car for any form of road trip at all. As to charging costs, aside from a once-a-week trip from Cleveland, OH to Pittsburgh, PA, I would always be within 50 miles of home, so the assumption for cost/use was basically 95% home charging and hitting a fast charger near Pittsbugh before driving home. Given that my current S6 averages 18 MPG in the summer and 16-17 MPG in the winter, even the electric costs you listed above would be a net savings for me.
My wife just traded her ICE car in for a new Audi e-tron SUV and so far, has been happy with it, though she will also have to do the Pittsburgh 120-mile drive this week, so I guess we'll see. We'll be buying my 16-year-old a cheap ICE car soon as well, so in theory if something needed massive mileage, one of us could swap cars with him.
I'm feeling rather conflicted now, as I had found a perfectly-optioned CPO car up in New England and was considering flying out to drive it home, but got scared off by all of the issues reported here by owners. Here's the real question - outside of EV range/cost discussion, do you feel the car is reliable enough to be an "only car?"
This is my experience. I have a base 2022 Taycan. It is two years old and has 19,000 miles. Other than software issues which appear to be finally resolved, it has been problem free. No repairs. True maintenance is really only a brake fluid change and cabin filter change every 2 years. My wife and I use it daily but not for trips. If we charge it to 100%, we get 250 miles +. It is a joy to drive and we have numerous compliments everywhere we go. Electricity in Houston Texas is about 15cents per KW hour. A full charge is around $12. If we get 250 miles on a full charge, it appears, if I’m correct, to cost around 5 cents a mile for electricity. Our Audi Q7 gets 20 miles a gallon and at $3 a gallon, that’s about 15 cents a mile for gasoline. I realize that it’s recommended to only charge to 80%, but I’ll buy the next model change long before the battery warranty expires. We absolutely recommend a Taycan.EDIT 2: Now I'm conflicted... I have found the "perfect" CPO car, but am just scared about reliability if it was my only car (given that my wife has a car, but has to drive for work also). Am I just overthinking it, or are these too unreliable even with all of the updates? Is there anything I should look for in the service history?
EDIT: Question removed. After seeing the sheer number of issues posted here and on TaycanForum as well, I have decided that it's not worth the risk of dealing with all of the numerous potential issues that seem to pop up regularly on this car.
I appreciate the feedback, and will consider the vehicle in a future model year, but I'll probably be looking to other non-Volkswagen Group brands at this point.
Since the vehicle is a CPO, the software update that brings all Taycan’s up to the 2023 model year functionality should have already been done. I would think the Plug and Charge functionality is now there. I haven’t tested that on mine because I do road tripping with my ICE Porsche SUV and not the Taycan.I forgot to ask the model year of your Taycan. Most of us replied with 2020 model year experience. I believe the ability to get Plug & Charge was started in 2022 and available via update to the 2021 model year. We have that for my wife's EV and it makes life easier.
I have read some of the complaints on this forum, but the handful of Taycan owners I have e met all love the car.
For comparison, at Electrify America here in Lauderdale, it's $.36/kW. I don't know what it costs me to charge at home, as my home is 100% solar. Is Electrify America $.15 kW in Houston?This is my experience. I have a base 2022 Taycan. It is two years old and has 19,000 miles. Other than software issues which appear to be finally resolved, it has been problem free. No repairs. True maintenance is really only a brake fluid change and cabin filter change every 2 years. My wife and I use it daily but not for trips. If we charge it to 100%, we get 250 miles +. It is a joy to drive and we have numerous compliments everywhere we go. Electricity in Houston Texas is about 15cents per KW hour. A full charge is around $12. If we get 250 miles on a full charge, it appears, if I’m correct, to cost around 5 cents a mile for electricity. Our Audi Q7 gets 20 miles a gallon and at $3 a gallon, that’s about 15 cents a mile for gasoline. I realize that it’s recommended to only charge to 80%, but I’ll buy the next model change long before the battery warranty expires. We absolutely recommend a Taycan.
This is my experience. I have a base 2022 Taycan. It is two years old and has 19,000 miles. Other than software issues which appear to be finally resolved, it has been problem free. No repairs. True maintenance is really only a brake fluid change and cabin filter change every 2 years. My wife and I use it daily but not for trips. If we charge it to 100%, we get 250 miles +. It is a joy to drive and we have numerous compliments everywhere we go. Electricity in Houston Texas is about 15cents per KW hour. A full charge is around $12. If we get 250 miles on a full charge, it appears, if I’m correct, to cost around 5 cents a mile for electricity. Our Audi Q7 gets 20 miles a gallon and at $3 a gallon, that’s about 15 cents a mile for gasoline. I realize that it’s recommended to only charge to 80%, but I’ll buy the next model change long before the battery warranty expires. We absolutely recommend a Taycan.
I was not terribly clear. This is what it costs for home service. I have only charged my Taycan at home.For comparison, at Electrify America here in Lauderdale, it's $.36/kW. I don't know what it costs me to charge at home, as my home is 100% solar. Is Electrify America $.15 kW in Houston?
This is a 2021 Turbo sedan model. Dealer claims it is fully up to date, but it is a few hours away, so I am trying to read up on what the current PCM version is so I can check when I arrive.I forgot to ask the model year of your Taycan. Most of us replied with 2020 model year experience. I believe the ability to get Plug & Charge was started in 2022 and available via update to the 2021 model year. We have that for my wife's EV and it makes life easier.
I have read some of the complaints on this forum, but the handful of Taycan owners I have e met all love the car.
It'll be a bit weird to give up 4 options from my current non-Porsche that this original buyer did not opt for: no massage seats (heresy in a Porsche, I know, but I do long drives), no heads-up display (this one hurts), no puddle lamps (amazing that this is not free on a 160K+ car), and no infrared night vision. I really enjoyed having the night vision on my current car when navigating residential streets or driving near parks with deer. That said, getting 250 HP more power and not paying for gas is a welcome trade.
Not ever having to go to a gas station is AWESOME!!! And the Taycan Turbo does zero to 60 faster than Porsche’s claimed 3 seconds flat. The acceleration is insane and you can make yourself sick if you hammer the accelerator. What kind of vehicle will you be coming out of Mr. Slappy_G?This is a 2021 Turbo sedan model. Dealer claims it is fully up to date, but it is a few hours away, so I am trying to read up on what the current PCM version is so I can check when I arrive.
It'll be a bit weird to give up 4 options from my current non-Porsche that this original buyer did not opt for: no massage seats (heresy in a Porsche, I know, but I do long drives), no heads-up display (this one hurts), no puddle lamps (amazing that this is not free on a 160K+ car), and no infrared night vision. I really enjoyed having the night vision on my current car when navigating residential streets or driving near parks with deer. That said, getting 250 HP more power and not paying for gas is a welcome trade.
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